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Southern Pacific's Shasta Daylight Cars
in
The 1984 Lousiana State Fair Daylight
and
The Eureka Southern/NCRA North Coast Daylight
by Walt Freedman

The 1984 Louisiana State Fair Daylight
(Links to photos of the SW cars can be found below in the Eureka Southern table)
(Note 1)
Chris Guenzler's account of riding the Worlds Fair Daylight. Detailed account and many wonderful pictures
Reporting
Mark
NameTypeOriginal Road#
and Name
History
PNWC 3300Miln D. GillespieBaggage-Chair
Combine
SP 3300Locomotive Crew Car: Built P-S for first Coast Daylight; retired and sold for scrap 1971; purchased by PNWC in January 1984 from Purdy Co. Lincoln CA. Named in honor of early PNWC member.
PNWC 600Mount Hood
(In Empire Builder colors)
Sleeper-LoungeSP&S 600
Mount Hood
Built P-S 1950 w. 6 roomettes, 3 double bedrooms and 25-seat lounge. Donated to PNWC by BN in 1970.
SW 542Sonoma48-seat chairSP 2355Built P-S 1954 for the Coast Daylight. (Note 3); Amtrak 4842 in 1973. Sold to Sierra Western Corp. in 1983.
SW 544Mendocino48-seat chairSP 2358Built P-S 1954 for the Coast Daylight. (Note 3); Amtrak 4844 in 1973. Sold to Sierra Western Corp. in 1983.
SW 546Humboldt48-seat chairSP 2361Built P-S 1954 for the Coast Daylight. (Note 3); Amtrak 4846 in 1973. Sold to Sierra Western Corp. in 1983.
SW 507Shasta40-seat loungeSP 2385Built P-S 1949 as 38-seat chair w. crew room; Amtrak 7507 in 1974. Sold to Sierra Western Corp. in 1983 and converted to 40-seat lounge with bar and refrigerator.
SW 511Stanislaus52-seat chairSP 2395Built P-S 1949 as 48-seat chair for the Shasta Daylight; Amtrak 7511 in 1974. Sold to Rail Systems Co. in 1977, it was sold twice for conversion to a restaurant but acquired Sierra Western Corp. in 1978 and made serviceable.
PAR 2397None
(Note 4)
48-seat chairSP 2397Built P-S 1949 as 48-seat chair for the Shasta Daylight; Amtrak 7512 in 1974. Sold to Bill Gawzner in 1977, and then to Pacific Railway Society of Riverside CA who named it Shasta Springs. (Note 4)
SW 500San Joaquin86-seat coachSP 2241Built P-S 1949 as SP 10317 Timberline Lodge 54-seat tavern for the Shasta Daylight; rebuilt into SP 2241 86-seat coach in 1963 (has no vestibule but 4 restrooms); Amtrak 7500 in 1974. Sold to Sierra Western in 1978.
SW 510Tuolumne48-seat chairSP 2392Built P-S 1949 as 48-seat chair for the Shasta Daylight; Amtrak 7510 in 1974. Sold to Sierra Western in 1978.
GWT 568Red River68-seat coachGN 1147Built ACF 1950 as GN diner-obs Red River for train of same name. Rebuilt to 68-seat coach in 1963; Amtrak 6800 in 1974. Sold to Bill Gawzner in 1978 who sold it to Great Western Tours in 1980. See a slightly different version of the history in Note 12.
SW 156Lake Pepin48-seat chairSLSF 650
Alexander Doniphan
Built P-S 1948 as 36-seat diner for the Texas Special. Sold to GN in 1966 and rebuilt for the Empire Builder as GN 1156 Lake Pepin. Sold by BN to Sierra Western in 1979 and totally rebuilt to 48-seat diner.
1290Appekunny Mountain
(In CFNR colors)
Observation-loungeGN 1290Built ACF 1951 for the Empire Builder. Car has 32 seats and 3 roomettes. Sold by BN to Grant Corporations of Houston, Texas in 1974. (Sold subsequently to California Northern as their business car #100 Appekunny Mountain, Napa CA.)

 

Eureka Southern/NCRA North Coast Daylight
(Note 2)  (Note 5)
Chris Guenzler's account of trips in July 1986 and Labor Day weekend 1987. Detailed account and many wonderful pictures
Along the Eel River. Apologies to the photographer for losing the internet reference that was the source for this picture.
Departing Willits - October 1985. The first 2 cars are the Sonoma Valley and Golden Mission owned by Allan Hemphill that were kept at the Chateau St.Jean winery along the line. They were photographed together in Vermont in April 1997 - see picture links. The first is an NP Travelers Rest car (AMTK 800288 ex-AMTK 8354 nee-NP 498) and the other an ex SP prewar sleeper (AMTK 800114 ex-SP 9110, nee-211 LW 4Comp-4 DBR-2D) built for the Golden State Limited. Delivered in two-tone gray and not named for SP-RI service. When the Golden State passenger cars were repainted Red/Silver in 1947, the car was named Golden Mission. Repainted Sunset Ltd version of Golden State in 1954 with GS ball and wing and #'ed 9110. In 1956 it was one of the cars assigned to the Sunset and got a SSLtd ball and wing. SP kept the car, re#138 in 1968 for awhile as a crew car for the dynomometer car, SP137. Unknown when Hemphill bought and sold them or movements leading to the 1997 photos or after. But they are rumored to back in the SF Bay Area with the SP car back to TTGray and named Yosemite Falls and the NP car renamed Muir Woods. [From the cluttered mind of Dave Roth June 2008 with links to and info on the 2 cars added by wf.]
Led by an ex-SP GP9E 3190, NCRA's North Coast Daylight at Eureka after 1992 takeover of Eureka Southern. From photo album at http://sunnyfortuna.com/railroad/
Reporting
Mark
NameTypeOriginal Road#
and Name
History
SW 523Redwood CoastFull domeATSF 511Built Budd 1954 for El Capitan/Texas Chiefs. 57 coach/18 lounge seats under the dome. Sold to Autotrains #523. Sold 12/81 to Dick Reynolds of Great Western Tours and leased through partner Neil Ferguson to ES as SW 523. Resold 8/86 to Holland Amercia Westours "Nenana" (800124) and entered service in 1987. Listed for sale as "excess" 7/2003. Sold 11/07 to San Luis & Rio Grande RR Alamoso CO.
SW 542Sonoma48-seat chairSP 2355Built P-S 1954 for the Coast Daylight. (Notes 3, 7); Amtrak 4842 in 1973. Sold to Sierra Western Corp. in 1983. Sold to NCRA ~ 1992. Currently marooned at Scotia (Y2008) since NCRA shutdown ~1998..
SW 544Mendocino48-seat chairSP 2358Built P-S 1954 for the Coast Daylight. (Note 3)  (Note 7)   Amtrak 4844 in 1973. Sold to Sierra Western Corp. in 1983. Sold to NCRA ~1992. Currently marooned at Scotia (Y2008) since NCRA shutdown ~1998..
SW 546Humboldt48-seat chairSP 2361Built P-S 1954 for the Coast Daylight. (Note 3);   Amtrak 4846 in 1973. Sold to Sierra Western Corp. in 1983. Sold to NCRA ~1992. Marooned at Scotia since NCRA shutdown ~1998.
SW 507Shasta
View 2
View 3
40-seat loungeSP 2385Built P-S 1949 as 38-seat chair w. crew room; Amtrak 7507 in 1974. Sold to Sierra Western Corp. in 1983 and converted to 40-seat lounge with bar and refrigerator. Sold to NCRA ~1992. Marooned at Willits since NCRA shutdown ~1998. Cut up/scrapped early June 2008 - Alco Iron & Metal, San Leandro, CA.
SW 508
(SW paint Note 6)
Solano
View 2
48-seat coachSP 2387Built P-S 1949 as 48-seat car vestibule forward for the Shasta Daylight Class 83-C-1. Part of series SP #2381-98 with capacities from 38 to 48 seats. Repainted into General Service Silver/red stripe by 1971. Sold to Amtrak 7508. May have been sold to Autoliner a couple of years later w/o being used in Amtrak service, as were other cars in the series. (Kinkaid SP Color Guide Vol 3. p36-37). Sold to NCRA ~1992 ? Marooned at Willits since NCRA shutdown ~1998. Cut up/scrapped early June 2008 - Alco Iron & Metal, San Leandro, CA.
SW 511Stanislaus
View 2
52-seat chairSP 2395Built P-S 1949 as 48-seat chair for the Shasta Daylight; Amtrak 7511 in 1974. Sold to Rail Systems Co. in 1977, it was sold twice for conversion to a restaurant but acquired Sierra Western Corp. in 1978 and made serviceable. Sold to NCRA ~1992. Marooned at Willis since NCRA shutdown ~1998. Rescued June 2008 by Jon Clark and trucked to LA.
SW 500San Joaquin
View 2
86-seat coachSP 2241Built P-S 1949 as SP 10317 Timberline Lodge 54-seat tavern for the Shasta Daylight; rebuilt into SP 2241 86-seat coach in 1963 (has no vestibule but 4 restrooms); Amtrak 7500 in 1974. Sold to Sierra Western in 1978. Sold to NCRA ~1992. Marooned at Willits since NCRA shutdown ~1998. Cut up/scrapped early June 2008 - Alco Iron & Metal, San Leandro, CA.
SW 510Tuolumne
View 2
48-seat chairSP 2392Built P-S 1949 as 48-seat chair for the Shasta Daylight; Amtrak 7510 in 1974. Sold to Sierra Western in 1978. Sold to NCRA ~1992 ? Marooned at Healdburg since NCRA shutdown ~1998.
SW 156Lake Pepin
View 2
View 3
48-seat dinerSLSF 650
Alexander Doniphan
Built P-S 1948 as 36-seat diner for the Texas Special. Sold to GN in 1966 and rebuilt for the Empire Builder as GN 1156 Lake Pepin. Sold by BN to Sierra Western in 1979 and totally rebuilt to 48-seat diner. Sold to NCRA ~1992 ? Marooned at undisclosed location since NCRA shutdown ~1998.
SW 455
(SW paint Note 6)
Lake Tahoe
View 2
diner-lunch counterCB&Q 455Built P-S 1947 as a diner-lunch counter for the NP North Coast Limited. Rebuilt as full diner P-S 1953/54. Sold 1958 to NP as #455 for NP's Mainstreeter - the NCL got new Budd diners that year. Sold to SW and subsequently NCRA ? Marooned at Willits since NCRA shutdown ~1998.
SW 151Hidden Lake
View 2
34-seat dinerGN 1242Built ACF 1951 for GN as a "Ranch" Western-themed 18-seat lounge-12-seat diner-coffee shop for the Empire Builder. Lounge seats were gradually replaced by tables between 1961 and 1968 to a final 34-seat diner. BN1242 sold to Amtrak #8151 in 1971. Sold subsequently to GWT/SW and later NCRA ? Marooned at undisclosed location since NCRA shutdown ~1998.
Other Cars at Willits
  Whitefish Lake
(Note 8)
34-seat dinerGN 1245Built ACF 1951 for GN as a "Ranch" Western-themed 18-seat lounge-12-seat diner-coffee shop for the Empire Builder. Lounge seats were gradually replaced by tables between 1961 and 1968 to a final 34-seat diner. BN1245 sold to Amtrak #8153 in 1971. Sold subsequently to GWT/SW and later NCRA ? Marooned at Willits since NCRA shutdown ~1998. Salvaged/restored by Roots of Motive Power in 2004.
Other Cars Available to NCD
(as of late 1985)  (Note 9)
GWT 111Adventurer66-seat diner/gallery comboUP 5106Built in 1953 by ACF. Originally UP galley/diner #5106, later UP 5112/3. Both cars have been drawbar-connected for their entire life. To several tour operators (Sierra dinner train in 1970's, NCD in 1980's ? as #111) before being refurbished for BC Rail's Whistler Northwind service as BCR 1741 D'Arcy and Strathnaver. Purchased by Grand Luxe Tours as AOEX 800765 for their second set after BCR quit passenger service - galley Vancouver and diner Jasper. Both stored off trucks at CRM Fort Lupton, CO. (info source: http://www.trainweb.org/ultradomes/grandluxe.html.) Purportedly sometime known as the Twin Lemon due to its original UP colors ! (Note 10)
GWT 185Twin Grove48-seat dinerMILW 185(Note 11). One of 5 MILW-built cafe-parlor cars. Twin Grove was one of 2 such converted to a diner-lounge in 1959 for service on the Pioneer Ltd. (info source: Brass Carsides website).
GWT 568Red River68-seat coachGN 1147See history above in Worlds Fair Daylight section and slightly different information in Notes 11 & 12.

 

Notes:

Note 1: From Trains Magazine September 1984 p.54 in slightly modified format. "ROSTER compiled by Jim Boyd from Pacific Northwest Chapter NRHS data sheet compiled by Richard A. Carlson of the Sierra Western Corp. equipment register, and data on train make-up supplied by Ed Immel." Cars listed in consist order.
Note 2: NCRA - North Coast Railroad Authority, California, a public agency. This was originally part of SP's Northwestern Pacific line (from Sausalito/Tiburon to Eureka, CA), taken over by California Northern, then Eureka Southern and finally NCRA (currently). Here is a brief history and roster of the "new" NWP until it was shutdown by the FRA in 1998.
Note 3: SP 2352 - 61 was a 10-car order, all 48-seats with the large 65" x 35-3/4" tall windows, the first 6 going to Coast Daylight service and the remaining 4 to the Shasta Daylight.
Note 4: PRS named the car "Shasta Springs". However, they chose not to have that name on the exterior when repainted for the 1984 Daylight in the interests of historical acuracy, making it the only un-named car in the consist.
Note 5: From CTC Board September 1985, Pacific Rail News August 1985 and other sources: The NCD was a cooperative venture of ES and the train's promoters Redwood Coast Railway Co (a subsidiary of Great Western Tours of San Francisco). RCR provided the cars and on-board staff. The beautifully restored cars were from the private collection of Neil Ferguson of Sierra Western Rail Corp. and Dick Reynolds of GWT. At the height of its popularity, the maximum 11-12 car consist with 450 seats was sold out weeks in advance. ES operated the train from early 1985 through 1992 when an earthquake and a related landslide at Scotia Bluff closed the line. In 1992, the NCRA purchased ES and operated both passenger and freight for a few more years. However further storm damage resulted in the FRA closing the line down in 1998. Sporadic attempts continued to be made and public money spent to open parts of the railroad between Petaluma and Willits (even through Y2008) but the severely damaged sections of the line beyond Willits and through the Eel River canyon and on to Eureka will probably remain closed forever.
Note 6: Sierra Western colors were copies of NP's Loewy scheme: Dark Green below roofline, Light Green below windows with a separating thin white stripe. To handle the hot California sun, the roofs were silver instead of the very dark "close-to" Empire Builder Green.
Note 7: Photos by Gary Morris www.railpixs.com
Note 8: Photo from Ben Ringnalda's website www.greatnorthernempire.net.
Note 9: According to Fred Stindt's book "Northern Pacific Railroad - Volume 2.
Note 10: Per Ken Shattock and others postings to Trainorders 2/7/2008 "Dining Car" photo wanted ..
Note 11: Sold to a new owner in Portland and off the property in September 1986. Per e-mail from Jeff Moore, Elko NV to WF 3/8/2004.
Note 12: History per Ben Ringnalda's GN Empire website. Converted to coach 1962. To BN 6800 1970. To Amtrak 6800 1972, retired 1977. Sold to GWT in CA 1977. To Pacific Northwest Chapter of National Railway Historical Society Tigard, OR as SP 6800 in Daylight colors. See picture - POTB 6800 (Port of Tillamook Bay).

Acknowledgements:
Many thanks for the help of all kinds from Dave Roth, Richard Percy, Tim Hanesworth, informative postings on Trainorders and the Espee Yahoo group by many contributors and too many other internet and published sources to list. My apologies that I do not mention your name, website or publication specifically.

Walt Freedman, Sausalito California June 2008.

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