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San Joaquin Daylight


This information has been compiled from postings to the SP Mailing list and very close reading of the Books and articles listed in the References.


The streamlined San Joaquin Daylight started officially on July 4th 1941, although lightweight cars had appeared on the train earlier. The inaugural consist in the table below is taken from an article that appeared in Mainline Modeler of May 1988.

Two cars were specially modified for the San Joaquin Daylight; these were the two headend cars per train. The Baggage/RPO and full Baggage were what SP called "Stream-styled" - this involved squaring of each end and altering the end profile to that of the lightweight cars, then adding a full-width diaphragm. The "Harrriman-style" roof was blended into the new end and skirting was added again to match the lightweight cars.

The Baggage/RPO only had a full-width diaphragm at the 'B' end as this car (almost always) operated as the first car. The full-baggage had full-width diaphragms both ends.

SP San Joaquin Daylight #51 as of 07/4/41SP San Joaquin Daylight #52 as of 07/4/41
W. Gordon Anderson gives this as the inaugural consist of SP San Joaquin Daylight #51/52 as of 07/4/41
Car type Class NumberCar type Class Number
RPO Mail Baggage 70-BP-30-3 SP 5069RPO Mail Baggage 70-BP-30-3 SP 5070
Baggage Express 70-B-8 SP 6091Baggage Express 70-B-8 SP 6092
Chair 79-C-2 SP 2492Chair 79-C-2 SP 2493
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2478Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2482
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2477Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2481
Diner 77-D-10 SP 10200Diner 77-D-10 SP 10201
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2480Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2484
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2479Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2483
Chair 79-C-2 SP 2487Chair 79-C-2 SP 2488
Parlor Observation77-PRO-1 SP 2950Parlor Observation77-PRO-1 SP 2951

Train #51-53 is a combined train until Lathrop, where the first 9 Cars continue to Oakland as Train #51, the last 5 cars go as Train #53 to Sacramento.

The two 60ft Baggage cars were not modified but were painted Daylight colors.

SP San Joaquin Daylight #51 as of 07/4/41SP San Joaquin Daylight #52 as of 07/4/41
Ryan and Shine gives this as the inaugural consist+ from Day Trains of the Coast Line
Car type Class Number Car type Class Number
RPO Mail Baggage 70-BP-30-3 SP 5069RPO Mail Baggage 70-BP-30-3 SP 5070
Baggage Express 70-B-8 SP 6091Baggage Express 70-B-8 SP 6092
Baggage Express 60-B-8 SP 6029Baggage Express 60-B-5 SP 6204
Chair 79-C-2 SP 2492Chair 79-C-2 SP 2493
Chair 64-ACW-1 SP 2404Chair 64-ACW-1 SP 2406
Chair 64-ACM-1 SP 2405Chair 64-ACM-1 SP 2407
Chair 79-C-2 SP 2487Chair 79-C-2 SP 2488
Lunch-Counter Tavern77-T-1 SP 10310Lunch-Counter Tavern77-T-1 SP 10311
Diner 77-D-10 SP 10200Diner 77-D-10 SP 10201
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2478Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2480
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2477Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2479
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2482Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2484
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2481Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2483
Parlor Observation 77-PRO-1 SP 2950Parlor Observation 77-PRO-1 SP 2951

Lunch-Counter Tavern 10310 added 24/7/1941, 10311 added 8/4/1941


SP San Joaquin Daylight #51 from Jan.5/42 - Apr.13/1946SP San Joaquin Daylight #52 from Jan.5/42 - Apr.13/1946
Ryan and Shine from Day Trains of the Coast Line
typical consist
Car type Class Number Number Number Car type ClassNumberNumber Number
-6/1942+6/1942+7/1943 -6/1942+6/1942+7/1943
Mail Express 70-B-8 SP 6085 SP 6085 Mail Express 70-B-9 SP 6448 SP 6448
Baggage Express 70-B-8 SP 6091 SP 6091 Baggage Express 70-B-8 SP 6092 SP 6092
RPO Mail Baggage70-BP-30-3 SP 5069 SP 5069 SP 5069RPO Mail Baggage70-BP-30-3 SP 5070 SP 5070 SP 5070
Chair-Baggage 77-CB-1 SP 3300 SP 3300 SP 3300Chair-Baggage 77-CB-1 SP 3301 SP 3301 SP 3301
Chair 64-ACW-1 SP 2404 SP 2404 SP 2404Chair 64-ACW-1 SP 2406 SP 2406 SP 2406
Chair 64-ACM-1 SP 2405 SP 2405 SP 2405Chair 64-ACM-1 SP 2407 SP 2407 SP 2407
Chair 66-ACW-1 SP 2444 SP 2444 SP 2444Chair 66-ACW-1 SP 2442 SP 2442 SP 2442
Chair 66-ACM-1 SP 2443 SP 2443 SP 2443Chair 66-ACM-1 SP 2441 SP 2441 SP 2441
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2478 SP 2482 SP 2482Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2480 SP 2480 SP 2480
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2477 SP 2481 SP 2481Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2479 SP 2479 SP 2479
Chair 79-C-2 SP 2492 SP 2492 SP 2492Chair 79-C-2 SP 2493 SP 2493 SP 2493
Coffee Shop 70-AD-2 SP 10252SP 10252SP 10252Coffee Shop 70-AD-2 SP 10255SP 10255SP 10255
Kitchen 57-AD-1 SP 10251SP 10251SP 10251Kitchen 57-AD-1 SP 10254SP 10254SP 10254
Coffee Shop 70-AD-1 SP 10250SP 10250SP 10250Coffee Shop 70-AD-1 SP 10253SP 10253SP 10253
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2464 SP 2464 SP 2464Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2472 SP 2472 SP 2472
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2463 SP 2463 SP 2463Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2471 SP 2471 SP 2471
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2482 SP 2482 SP 2482Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2484 SP 2484 SP 2484
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2481 SP 2481 SP 2481Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2483 SP 2483 SP 2483
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2458Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2466
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2457Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2465
Chair 79-C-2 SP 2493 Chair 79-C-2 SP 2488
Parlor Observation77-PRO-1 SP 2952 SP 2952Parlor Observation77-PRO-1 SP 2953 SP 2953

#51/52 was 19 cars long up to 7/1943 then 20 cars to 1946.

#6448 a 70ft baggage car was painted in Daylight colors but was not modified.

The #6083 and 6085 were originally built for the Lark and were Stream-Styled, these were repainted in Daylight for the San Joaquin.

The 2 baggage-express were discontinued after 7/1943 and replaced by 66-ACM/ACW 2458/2457 and 66-ACM/ACW 2466/2465.

77-PRO-1 replaced by 79-C-2 between 6/1942 and 7/1943.

Triple unit Diners always operated Coffee-Shop Forward. Pre-war built Triples operated 3-2-1 ie. backwards to their numbering. Post-war built Triples were numbered opposite or correctly, so operated 1-2-3, or as their numbering still with the Coffee-Shop forward.

For the period above the RPO operated as the third car. This was unusual, 99% of the time the RPO was the first car for the security of the mail. Only Railway Mail Service employees were allowed in the RPO and if the car was a combine, then there was a locked door between the RPO and baggage section that could only be opened by the RMS employee.


SP San Joaquin Daylight #51-53 LA to Sacramento and Oakland as of 06/2/46SP San Joaquin Daylight #52-54 LA to Sacramento and Oakland as of 06/2/46
SP Equipment Circular No.14 June 2, 1946
Typical Consist
Car type Class Number Routing Car type Class Number Routing
Mail Baggage 70-BP-30-3 SP 5069(LA-Oak) Mail Baggage 70-BP-30-3 SP 5070(Oak-LA)
Baggage Express 70-B-8 SP 6091(LA-Oak) Baggage Express 70-B-8 SP 6092(Oak-LA)
Parlor 23 seats-PR-x SP (LA-Oak) Parlor 23 seats-PR-x SP (Oak-LA)
Lunch-Counter Tavern42 seats77-T-1 SP 10310(LA-Oak) Lunch-Counter Tavern42 seats77-T-1 SP 10311(Oak-LA)
Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP (LA-Oak) Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP (Oak-LA)
Chair 46 seats66-ACW-x SP (LA-Oak) Chair 46 seats66-ACM-x SP (Oak-LA)
Chair 46 seats66-ACM-x SP (LA-Oak) Chair 46 seats66-ACM-x SP (Oak-LA)
Chair 46 seats79-C-2 SP (LA-Oak) Chair 46 seats79-C-2 SP (Oak-LA)
Diner 36 seats77-D-10 SP 10200(LA-Oak) Diner 36 seats77-D-10 SP 10201(Oak-LA)
Coffee Shop 80 seats77-D-11 SP 10400(LA-Sacto)Coffee Shop 80 seats77-D-11 SP 10401(LA-Sacto)
Chair 46 seats79-C-2 SP (LA-Sacto)Chair 46 seats79-C-2 SP (LA-Sacto)
Chair 46 seats66-ACW-x SP (LA-Sacto)Chair 46 seats66-ACM-x SP (LA-Sacto)
Chair 46 seats66-ACM-x SP (LA-Sacto)Chair 46 seats66-ACM-x SP (LA-Sacto)
Parlor Observation 22 seats77-PRO-1 SP 2950(LA-Sacto)Parlor Observation 22 seats77-PRO-1 SP 2951(LA-Sacto)

Operational Notes:

  • Parlor Obs to Sacto for short time only

SP San Joaquin Daylight #51-53 LA to Sacramento and Oakland as of 02/1947SP San Joaquin Daylight #52-54 LA to Sacramento and Oakland as of 02/1947
Ryan and Shine from Day Trains of the Coast Line
typical consist
Car type Class Number Routing Car type Class Number Routing
RPO Mail Baggage 70-BP-30-3 SP 5069(LA-Oak) RPO Mail Baggage 70-BP-30-3 SP 5070(Oak-LA)
Chair-Baggage 44 seats77-CB-1 SP 3301(LA-Oak) Chair-Baggage 44 seats77-CB-1 SP 3301(Oak-LA)
Parlor Drawing Room 29 seats77-PR-1 SP 3001(LA-Oak) Parlor Drawing Room 29 seats77-PR-1 SP 3000(Oak-LA)
Lunch-Counter Tavern42 seats77-T-1 SP 10311(LA-Oak) Lunch-Counter Tavern42 seats77-T-1 SP 10310(Oak-LA)
Chair 50 seats64-ACW-2 SP 2410(LA-Oak) Chair 50 seats66-ACW-2 SP 2486(Oak-LA)
Chair 50 seats64-ACM-2 SP 2411(LA-Oak) Chair 50 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2485(Oak-LA)
Chair 46 seats66-ACW-2 SP 2486(LA-Oak) Chair 46 seats66-ACW-2 SP 2484(Oak-LA)
Chair 46 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2485(LA-Oak) Chair 46 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2483(Oak-LA)
Diner 36 seats77-D-9 SP 10144(LA-Oak) Diner 36 seats77-D-9 SP 10148(Oak-LA)
Coffee Shop 56 seats77-D-11 SP 10400(LA-Sacto)Coffee Shop 56 seats77-D-11 SP 10401(Sacto-LA)
Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2493(LA-Sacto)Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2488(Sacto-LA)
Chair 46 seats66-ACW-2 SP 2482(LA-Sacto)Chair 46 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2462(Sacto-LA)
Chair 46 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2481(LA-Sacto)Chair 46 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2461(Sacto-LA)
Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2486(LA-Sacto)Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2424(Sacto-LA)

The San Joaquin Daylight went from a 30ft RPO space to a 60ft RPO space meaning a change from a 70-BP-x to an 80-BP-x. Two 80ft Horse-baggage cars were converted to RPO's and painted Daylight in 1950 and numbered - #5217, #5218 and another was converted in 1954 as the 'protection' car - #5219.

When the Noon Daylight was annulled in 1949, Full Dining service was stopped on the SJD and M/CD so the Triple units re-assigned to the SJD had cars 10250/53 rebuilt to Lounge cars and were in operation until 1955.

SP San Joaquin Daylight #51-53 as of 10/1/52SP San Joaquin Daylight #52-54 as of 10/1/52
Typical Consist
Car type Class Number Routing Car type Class Number Routing
RPO Mail Baggage80-BP-60-1 SP 5217(LA-Oak) RPO-Mail-Baggage80-BP-60-1 SP 5218(Oak-LA)
Chair-Baggage 77-CB-1 SP 3300(LA-Oak) Chair-Baggage 77-CB-1 SP 3301(Oak-LA)
Chair 79-C-2 SP 2492(LA-Oak) Chair 79-C-2 SP 2493(Oak-LA)
Chair 64-ACW-1 SP 2404(LA-Oak) Chair 64-ACW-1 SP 2406(Oak-LA)
Chair 64-ACM-1 SP 2405(LA-Oak) Chair 64-ACM-1 SP 2407(Oak-LA)
Coffee Shop 70-AD-2 SP 10252(LA-Oak) Coffee Shop 70-AD-2 SP 10255(Oak-LA)
Kitchen 57-AD-1 SP 10251(LA-Oak) Kitchen 57-AD-1 SP 10254(Oak-LA)
Lounge 70-AD-1 SP 10250(LA-Oak) Lounge 70-AD-1 SP 10253(Oak-LA)
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2480(LA-Oak) Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2484(Oak-LA)
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2479(LA-Oak) Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2483(Oak-LA)
Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2478(LA-Sacto)Chair 66-ACW-2 SP 2482(Sacto-LA)
Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2477(LA-Sacto)Chair 66-ACM-2 SP 2481(Sacto-LA)

The last two cars were switched into the Sacramento Daylight at Lathrop.


SP rebuilt 7 cars to Dome-Lounges #3600-3606. Two were built for the SJD #3600 and #3604. #3600 class 79-DL-1 was rebuilt from 77-PRO-1 #2950 released 7/54, #3604 class 83-DL-1 was rebuilt from 81-PRO-x #3000 released 5/55.

In 1955 Dining car assignments changed again with the introduction of the Dome-Lounges. #10253 the artic 59 seat lounge which was converted from a 72 seat diner was converted yet again to a 62 seat Coffee-Shop. #10255 the artic 80 seat coffee-shop was converted to a 52 seat Hamburger-Grill. It then entered service with #3600 or #3604. #10250-51-52 was also similarly converted but never entered service and was vacated in late 1959.

So one consist ran with Triple unit #10253-54-55 (until retired in 1961), and one Dome-Lounge (either #3600 or #3604), the other ran with heavyweight Hamburger-Grill #10501 or #10509 and later (1956) #10507 with lightweight Coffee-Shop-Diner #10200 or #10201 and one Dome-Lounge (either #3600 or #3604). Hamburger-Grill cars ran on the SJD until 6/1961. #10509 vacated 11/1960.

The first Automat Buffet or "Tavern Vendo-Mat" #10600 entered service 9/1961, the second #10601 11/1961. These replaced #10200, 10201 Coffee-Shop-Diners. #10600 and #10601 were reassigned to The Owl in 3/1962, SJD then got #10602 and #10603.


Karl L. Swartz has a website of passenger train consists, he has a 1954 San Joaquin consist and the 1957 San Joaquin consist as below.


SP San Joaquin Daylight Train 52 spring 1957
from photo in Day Trains of the Coast Route page 261
F7A #6383 Boiler Control Equipped(helper)
FP7A #6454 Boiler Equipped(Oak-LA)
F7B #6xxx Boiler Equipped (Oak-LA)
Baggage-RPO (Oak-LA)
Baggage-Express (Oak-LA)
Baggage-Express (Oak-LA)
Chair Car (Oak-LA)
Artic Chair (Oak-LA)
Artic Chair (Oak-LA)
Coffee-Shop-Diner #10201 (Oak-LA)
Dome-Lounge #3604 (Oak-LA)
Chair Car (Oak-LA)
Artic Chair (Sacto-LA)
Artic Chair (Sacto-LA)

SP San Joaquin Daylight #51-53 as of 25/1/58SP San Joaquin Daylight #52 as of 25/1/58
Southern Pacific Passenger Train Consists and Cars 1955-1958 with info from Ryan and Shine
Typical Summer Consist
Car type Class Number Routing Car type Class Number Routing
RPO Mail Baggage 80-BP-60-1 SP 5217(LA-Oak) RPO-Mail-Baggage 80-BP-60-1 SP 5218(Oak-LA)
Baggage Express 80-B-x SP 6506(LA-Oak) Baggage Express 80-B-x SP 6507(Oak-LA)
Baggage (Tue only) 60-B-8 SP 6029(LA-Oak)
Chair-Baggage 44 seats77-CB-1 SP 3300(LA-Oak) Chair-Baggage 44 seats77-CB-1 SP 3301(Oak-LA)
Chair 44 seats64-ACW-1 SP 2404(LA-Oak) Chair 44 seats64-ACW-1 SP 2406(Oak-LA)
Chair 44 seats64-ACM-1 SP 2405(LA-Oak) Chair 44 seats64-ACM-1 SP 2407(Oak-LA)
Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2492(LA-Oak) Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2493(Oak-LA)
Hamburger-Grill 77-D-x SP 10501(LA-Oak) Hamburger-Grill 52 seats70-AD-2 SP 10255(Oak-LA)
Coffee-Shop-Diner 36 seats77-D-10 SP 10200(LA-Oak) Kitchen 57-AD-1 SP 10254(Oak-LA)
Coffee Shop 62 seats70-AD-1 SP 10253(Oak-LA)
Dome-Lounge 64 seats79-DL-1 SP 3600(LA-Oak) Dome-Lounge 78 seats83-DL-1 SP 3604(Oak-LA)
Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2489(LA-Oak) Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2490(Oak-LA)
Chair 44 seats66-ACW-2 SP 2480(LA-Oak) Chair 44 seats66-ACW-2 SP 2484(Oak-LA)
Chair 44 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2479(LA-Oak) Chair 44 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2483(Oak-LA)
Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2486(LA-Oak) Chair 44 seats79-C-2 SP 2424(Oak-LA)
Chair 44 seats66-ACW-2 SP 2478(LA-Sacto)Chair 44 seats66-ACW-2 SP 2482(Sacto-LA)
Chair 44 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2477(LA-Sacto)Chair 44 seats66-ACM-2 SP 2481(Sacto-LA)
  • Winter consist would drop 5 chair cars, the triple unit and Hamburger-Grill, both would come down to just one Coffee-Shop-Diner and the Dome-Lounge.
  • Train 51/53 - 15 cars LA to Lathrop (except 16 cars on Tues - 3rd baggage added)
  • Train 51/53 - 13 cars Lathrop to Oakland - Last 2 cars to Sacramento on 53
  • Train 52/54 - 13 Cars Oakland to Lathrop - only two headend cars
  • Train 52/54 - 15 cars Lathrop to LA - Last 2 cars ex 54 from Sacramento

Stegmaier lists the chair cars as 44 seats, but by 1958 most chair cars would have had at least 46 seats so car numbers are wild guesses...

Stegmaier also lists neither consist with a Triple unit, but Ryan and Shine say that one Triple unit was in summer service until 1960.

I have shown the Triple on 52/54 with Dome-Lounge #3604, but it could just as easily be on 51/53 with #3600 or any combination.


SP San Joaquin Daylight spring 1970
from photo in Trainline #34
SDP45 #3200
Star Baggage
Automat Buffet
Chair )*
Chair )*
Chair Observation

Operational Notes:

  • )* denotes articulated chair cars

Contributors:

  • Jim Lancaster
  • Gary Schrader
  • Bob Pecotich
  • John Vasconcelos
  • Tim O'Connor
  • Jeff Cauthen
  • Ken Harrison

References:

  • San Joaquin Daylight - Memories of Red, Orange and Black by W. Gordon Anderson - article in Mainline Modeler May 1988
  • SP Passenger Car Painting and Lettering Part 2 by Will Anderson - article in Mainline Modeler May 1995
  • SP Equipment Circular No.14 June 2, 1946
  • Southern Pacific Passenger Trains Volume.1 Night Trains of the Coast Route - by Ryan/Shine
  • Southern Pacific Passenger Trains Volume.2 Day Trains of the Coast Line - by Ryan/Shine
  • SP Heavyweight Baggage-Mail Cars 5217-5219 and 5044-5045 by James E. Lancaster Ph.D. - article in SP Trainline #22
  • Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume.1 Coaches and Chair Cars - by The Southern Pacific Historical & Technical Society
  • Southern Pacific Passenger Train Consists and Cars 1955-1958 - by Harry Stegmaier

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