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T&NO 987 Victoria converted from 60-C-8 coach on 4/19/27 from 823
T&NO 992 Dallas converted from 60-C-8 coach on 1/30/28 from 822
T&NO 994 San Antonio
First constructed as GH&SA coach 826, class 60-C-8, by Pullman 1916
Rebuilt as business car at Houston 4/20/28, named San Antonio, #994
Renamed Victoria at Houston, 4/24/46
To MW 3554 at Houston 2/15/57
To MW 479 at San Antonio 4/22/58
To SPMW 5753 3/20/62
Sold to Houston Compressed Steel 8/1/62
T&NO 996 TNO 996 was rebuilt to a Business Car and named El Paso, it was converted on 7/5/27 from TNO 824 at Houston Shops. TNO 824 was originally a class 60-C-8 and was built for the GH&SA in 1915.
T&NO 997 Houston San Bernardino, number SP 8500 assigned, never applied; Withdrawn From Lease 3/50;
rebuilt to Business Car Houston, TNO 997, 12/51
SSW Dixie The Dixie is a heavyweight car, See Goen's Cotton Belt Color Pictorial, p. 50, for a photo and details. Originally a 1910 Pullman built Parlor Car for the PRR until returned to Pullman, rebuilt as a Diner then sold to SSW in 1940 and numbered 242. In storage from the late 1940's until rebuilt as a Business Car in 1953. Painted in Daylight scheme until 1960 when it was repainted into SSS. Retired early 1970's.
SSW Fairlane The Fairlane is a heavyweight. See Goen's Cotton Belt Color Pictorial, p. 70, for a photo and details. It was build by the Pullman Company (Lot 4580, Plan 3369) in 1921 at a cost of $153,000 as a private car for Henry Ford, which explains why it's back in his museum. It was purchased by the Cotton Belt in November 1942. -- George G. Nelson, Jr. SSW List
SSW Ranger The Ranger was built in 1901 by Pullman and sold to International Paper in Feb of 58. It was used as a hunting lodge in Louisiana. It has since been moved and its current state is unknown at this time. -- K Hensley SSW List
SSW Texas
SSW Traveler
#151 San Jose Here is an image of Car #151 lettered for SSW and named San Jose. - see history below
#151 Pine Bluff

The "Pine Bluff" has an interesting history. Having been built in August, 1914 as El Paso & South Western, steel passenger coach #677. In 1925, it was renumbered to #1054. It was later acquired by Southern Pacific (most likely with the merger) and in April, 1930 or 1928 was rebuilt into the business car format, renumbered Southern Pacific 104 and named "San Jose" at SP's Sacramento, CA shops. It thus became the second SP car to carry the number 104. (Replacing a wooden car, the first #104), (There's a bit of a gap from 1930 to 1949 when air conditioning and I bet the thermal pane windows were added.) (There may have been a Shopping when the loading door was added and the A-End was reworked in the 50's or as late as 1967.)

The car was sold to the Cotton Belt Railway (Saint Louis and South Western Railway), July 26th 1973 when the number was changed to SSW #151. (Here's where somebody's sense of humor was put on the car as it was _over_ the Sunset's 150.) The name "San Jose", was kept though unrelated to the Cotton Belt terrain. During its renovations in the 1980's (1983-84) at Southern Pacific's Oakland passenger car shops the car was reupholstered inside, repainted outside, and all safety and operating appliances were repaired or replaced, and renumbered to SP #151. (The Script for the new name plate of the "Pine Bluff" comes from the 1940's style that graced SP's named passenger trains. Since none of the named trains had a capital "P" or "B" no prototype for those letters existed, therefore, both letters were designed in the same style expressly for the "Pine Bluff" by former SP Technical Data Coordinator Steve Peery of Walnut Creek, CA.)

The car was sold off in August, 1987 to a private owner in Southern California. The car was brought up to AMTRAK specs in 1998. The end history for the car will not be kind or fitting for a once proud member of SP business official car fleet. - Ray Eiser

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

offsite link
ex #151

from Paul Martin, shown here in Arcadia, California. Now at the end of the line for the former SP line from San Bernardino to LAX

from John Evans, also shown here in Arcadia, California. Now at the end of the line for the former SP line from San Bernardino to LAX

#99 Houston The second of three magnificent business cars ordered in the 1920's from Pullman which were the acme of the then car builders art. #99 was delivered 11/13/1926 and assigned to Thomas Sproul. -- Bob Pecotich

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#100 Airslie The third of three magnificent business cars ordered in the 1920's from Pullman which were the acme of the then car builders art. #100 Airslie was delivered 5/29/1926 at a cost of $81,592.03 (lots of money for 1926) and assigned to the Board Chairman Henry Wheeler DeForrest (with offices in New York). The car was regularly stationed on the private car tracks of the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York while the Board Chairman's offices were in that city. DeForrest had the car named for his family's hunting lodge in Scotland, "Airslie". -- Bob Pecotich

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#101 Rio Grande The Pullman 1926-built Pelham became the (Tucson Div.) SP division superintendent's car/business car Rio Grande, SP number 101, after SP's purchase of the car and rebuild in the 1950s. It ultimately went into SPMW service as a boarding car in the late 1950s. -- Bob Pecotich
#104 San Jose 1st 104 was a wood car of some type -- Ray Eiser
#104 San Jose

2nd 104 built in August, 1914 as El Paso & South Western, steel passenger coach #677. In 1925, it was renumbered to #1054. It was later acquired by Southern Pacific (most likely with the merger) and in April, 1930 or 1928 was rebuilt into the business car format, renumbered Southern Pacific 104 and named "San Jose" at SP's Sacramento, CA shops. -- Ray Eiser

See #151 Pine Bluff above


#106 Oregon

Was at one time named Shasta with same number.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.



In 1998 UP put this car up for sale, minimum bid was $150,000. Here is the text from the sales pitch.

The "Oregon" is a traditional, heavyweight business car, built in 1926 by Pullman Standard. Aesthetically, it does not possess the beautiful imported wood interior found in the Oakland. The car's original sheet metal interior was replaced with a walnut-stained plywood interior about 1982. Fluorescent lighting was installed as part of the electrical upgrade. The kitchen is constructed of modern stainless steel with an electric stove and oven. The carpeting, furniture, and upholstery need replacement.

Completely rehabbed in the early 1980s, the car is fully HEPed. The 106 is the most dependable and best-equipped car in the fleet, from a power standpoint--it is reliable and economical to operate. The trucks under this car, however, need major work, as they are the old style, six-wheel trucks with worn swing hangers and gouged equalizers. The draft gears also require attention. The trucks were given a 40-year rebuild in 1990 and a new 60kW Detroit diesel generator was placed under the car in 1996. The 106 was Amtrak compatible until 1995 and may need only the truck repairs to be so again. The car has been in service to the engineering department and was on the road through 1996.
Car Number:SP 106--AMTK 800475Car Name:OregonDate Built:9/26Builder:Pullman Standard
Wheel Bearing Type:5-1/2 x 10 Timken BearingEngine(s) Type(s):One DieselFuel Type:Diesel #1Fuel Capacity:300 Gallons
Water Capacity: 300 GallonsDiaphragm Type:Amtrak Compatible "B" End, None on PlatformHEP Compatibility:Fully Amtrak CompatibleVoltage:220V/480V III Phase with 110V/AC
Coupler Type(s):Tight-lock HTEPassenger Capacity:8, Sleeping: 5 plus Crew of 2Platform:Open "B" EndVestibules:Only on Platform End
Microphor:AllShowers:Two (2)Hand Brakes:Platform OnlyTrainline Compatibility:480V
Heating System Type:ElectricHot Water Supply:Electric Water HeaterBrake Type:Composition Shoes/26C Valves
Length:85 FeetWidth:10 Feet, 8 InchesHeight:15 Feet

#106 Shastawas at one time named Oregon with same number

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#107 Del Monte

From research on the web, this car was apparently built for or rebuilt for Henry Huntington as his Private Car. It is listed as a 1916 built Pullman.

It eventually became the Private Car San Marino -- Anthony Pinkerton

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#108 Shasta
(later Salt Lake)

Pullman built class 60-C in 1923 for EP&SW as #731 with 66 seats, later numbered SP #1058 in 1924. Rebuilt to the Shasta in 1930 and later renamed Salt Lake.

The photo in the book below is when in SPMW service. Says its a heavyweight observation. Has 6 wheel trucks and was 69ft long

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#109 ShastaSP 109 Shasta Business car in 1927. Possibly a steel-sided, Harriman roofed car that was to become the final (4th) Shasta. -- Gary Ray
#109 Dallas ex T&NO. 60 foot (60-C-8) coach #882, converted 1/30/1928 to business car Dallas #992. After retirement, in the early 1960's, it became SPMW 162 and was assigned to the signal department.
#110 Los Angeles Pullman 1925 built 10 section obs lounge. Converted to Business Car #110 and painted two-tone gray when bought by SP in 1956. Repainted Simulated Stainless Steel in the 60's. Vacated and sold to FCP in mexico in 1977.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#112 Instruction Car 1930 built Pullman Lounge Obs. Bought by SP in 1950 and converted to Instruction Car also named just Instruction. Vacated in 1975 had 6 wheel trucks - 84ft long.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

offsite link to 2 images #113 Another 1930 built Pullman Lounge Obs. Was an SP class 77-O-1 numbered 2915, rebuilt to SP plan 1021 in 1953. Converted to and listed as an instruction car but was not named as such in the early 50's. Vacated late 70's.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

offsite link to a b/w image of #115 #115 Instruction Car Originally a Baggage-Club Car, then a Bar-Lounge for the Lark in 1936, SP 2928 was retired 1950, and converted (and lettered) to a "Lubrication Instruction" Car. Then renumbered to 115 and relettered "Instruction Car".
According to the book below, was a 1923 ACF baggage-smoker-combine, rebuilt to a lounge car in 1937, then converted to an Instruction and Conference Car in 1955. May have just been numbered as an Instruction Car, but was lettered Conference Car sometime before 1965. Vacated late 60's.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#117 Tucson 1926 Pullman built 3-2 obs named Louis Frontenac. To SP and converted to Business car 117 in 1957. Vacated and sold circa 1987.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#119 Coast no further info... 6 wheel trucks, 76ft
#120 San Joaquin Pullman Heavyweight Observation San Marcial, number SP 8501 assigned, never applied; Withdrawn From Lease 3/50; rebuilt to Business Car San Joaquin SP 120, 5/51 - Jeff Cauthen
#121 Western Pullman, 1903, (SP Class unknown) 80' / Clerestory style / (Weight unknown)
History: Built new for the Chicago, Indianapolis and Indiana Railway; (Lettering and number unknown); Southern Pacific Railroad (SP) business car #121, "Western", Presented to City of Oakland for display at Harrison Park; Acquired by PLA, July 1990; Undergoing restoration, Brightside, CA. Joe Mann
#125 Coast There was another business car San Antonio that started life as a 1911 Pullman chair car:
Built as EP&SW 782
Converted to business car Beaumont T&NO 981 5/31/29
Renamed San Antonio at Houston 8/27/46
Rebuit with Waukesha air conditioning system ca. 1951-55
Renamed San Jacinto 11/21/55
Name dropped, became 981, and sold to SP 12/22/58
Renamed/numbered San Antonio 125 4/10/59
Renamed Coast 125 1959
Became SPMW 5451 at Sacramento 3/9/61
Retired July 1968 -- Bob Pecotich

These are two photos of the SP 125 taken in 1967. The silver one is it as the SPMW 5451. The other one is after it was purchased by Mr. Herbert N. Reichhold, moved to Railtown in Jamestown, had all its paint sandblasted and recoated in rustoleum red. Karl H. Reichhold. Karl also sent the floorplan.

#127 Alamo Alamo GH&SA (999) June1926
Alamo T&NO (999) 6/1931-to sometime after June 1932, when monthly ORER passenger car rosters became irregular
Air conditioned at Houston May 29,1937
999 T&NO March 1943
Alamo {"old 999"} (127) Penciled in on a on 7/21/1960 T&NO roster
Recommended for retirement as Alamo 127 November 24,1975
Worn out-sold March 1982
Off roster June 7,1982 -- Bob Pecotich

see Jim Lancaster's webpage for photos and info

The car was purchased by a local retired politician and moved to his private residence in Houston. It sits in his backyard today as it has since SP stopped running it. It is cosmetically the same as when it was used by SP, including the furniture and pictures. -- Bryan Sanderford
#128 Santa Rosa no further info... 6 wheel trucks 83ft
#129 Portland no further info... 6 wheel trucks, 82ft.
#131 New Mexico

CP #131 was assigned to the (Tucson Div.) SP division superintendent's car/business car, until replaced in 1951 by SP #101 -- Don Munger

#131 Los Angeles

Built as Pullman 3-2 lounge obs. Balboa in 1927, was sold to SP in 1954 for NWP business car service, rebuilt and renamed NWP 1 Redwood, then transferred to the Western Division in 1959 to become the Superintendent's car, numbered 131 and renamed Western, transferred to the Sacramento Division early 60's to become the Superintendent's car and named Sacramento. At some point after that it was renamed Los Angeles with the same number.

SP #131 still exists as a Private Car with its own website for more details.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#132 Cloudcroft The Jan'27 ORER lists the EPSW (SP) 132, ex 506 as the "Cloudcroft". -- Bill Kelly
#132 Houston Built as Pullman chair car in 1911 for EP&SW #283, sold to SP in 1928 then to T&NO converted to business car 980 and renumbered 132 and named Lafayette, renamed Houston in 1946, renamed Victoria in 1952 and San Jacinto in 1953 back to Houston in 1957 vacated 1972. Donated to the Sparks Nevada Heritage Museum.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#133 EPSW (SP) 133 is listed as ex 507, no name. -- Bill Kelly
#133 Guadelupe see Jim Lancaster's webpage for photos and info

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#134 Santa Barbara In the Feb '29 ORER it is listed as CP 134 "Santa Barbara". CP 134 was an "Employes Better Health Car" in the '30s ORERs. In some later notes it is listed as "Medical" and construction is 'steel underframe, steel sheathed' Notes from 1956 SP documentation calls it an 81' car blt in 1899 by Barney and Smith, Former 3074 (a CP Buffet), changed to 102 (1926), changed to 134 (1928). -- Bill Kelly
offsite photo link #135 Medical Examination Car a photo of the Car on Bob Morris' site (see link at left) of the car in 1951 - looks like one of the old Pullman Palace cars - an old MDC/Roundhouse Observation might be a good starting point for this car...
#136 The Life Line Blood Donor Car -- This car was converted from Steel Observation car SP 2903, according to the Floor Plan below, the conversion date appears to be 20th Nov. 1951.

A photocopy of a Detailed Floor Plan is available for purchase

#137 Dynamometer Car see: Southern Pacific #137 Dynamometer Car Info page
#138 Crew Sleeper

This was a Pullman-Standard Plan 4069H 4 Compartment/4 Double Bedroom/2 Drawing Room Sleeping Car built in 1942.

It was converted in 1968 at Oakland Shops for use with #137.

Modeling Notes: Union Station makes Laser-cut styrene sides to fit a P-S Car core kit requires other parts and trucks/couplers to complete.

#139 Sacramento Pullman, Aug. 1923, (SP Class 60-C as a coach) (Lot #4694) 60' / Clerestory style / 60 tons
History: Built new as El Paso and Southwestern (EP&SW) coach #730; Transferred to Pacific Lines in 1924 as coach #1057. Rebuilt as open-platform observation business car in Jan. 1929; Southern Pacific Railroad (SP) #139, "Sacramento"; Business car for the Superintendant of the Sacramento Division on the SP. Southern Pacific (SP) #MW 5441; Acquired by PLA, July 1975; Stored serviceable, Brightside, CA. Joe Mann
#140 Stanford The third of three magnificent business cars ordered in the 1920's from Pullman which were the acme of the then car builders art. #140 was for SP President Paul Shoup, SP 140 Sunset (delivered January 1928, became SP 140 Stanford 11/15/1955, the car/name carried thru today on Union Pacific, UPP 140 Stanford) first named to follow the tradition for the name Sunset to be that of the car assigned to the SP President. -- Bob Pecotich

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#141 Oakland

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.


In 1998 UP put this car up for sale, minimum bid was $75,000. Here is the text from the sales pitch.

The "Oakland" is a traditional, wood-paneled pre-1930s car. Aesthetically, it is very attractive, with honey-colored paneling. The lighting fixtures are not original equipment. The wood is in good condition, and the kitchen is modern stainless steel. Carpeting and upholstery are in fair to good condition, and the furniture is in very good condition. Some minor upgrades should be considered, such as back-dating the 1960s light fixtures, shade lamination, and some wood panel refinishing.

Propane-operated, this car is only moderately reliable. BCH ice and generator engines are new and dependable, but difficult to service (requiring changing of propane tanks). Some maintenance items have been deferred. To be considered reliable, the air conditioning system should be fully refurbished and the AC power systems inspected. Six-wheel, high-speed trucks are in excellent condition, although major sill, coupler and draft gear work is required. The 141 is not Amtrak-compatible and does not have 480-volt pass through.

Car Number:SP 141--AMTK 800490Car Name:OaklandDate Built:1/28Builder:Pullman Standard
Wheel Bearing Type:6 x 11 Timken EEEngine(s) Type(s):BCH (Ice and Generator)Fuel Type:PropaneFuel Capacity:9 Tanks
Water Capacity: 300 GallonsDiaphragm Type:Amtrak Compatible "B" EndHEP Compatibility:NoneVoltage:32V/DC Lighting, plus some 110V/AC Appliances
Coupler Type(s):E-Type/Both/EndsPassenger Capacity:8, Sleeping: 4 plus Crew of 2Platform:Open "A" EndVestibules:Only on Platform End--"B" End is Blind
Microphor:AllShowers:Two (2)Hand Brakes:One Platform End OnlyTrainline Compatibility:None
Heating System Type:Circulating Hot Water (Propane)Hot Water Supply:Propane Water HeaterBrake Type:Disc 26C Valves
Length:83 FeetWidth:10 FeetHeight:15 Feet
Updated ! 338kb #142 Santa Barbara

Pullman built class 70-C in 1914 for EP&SW as #675 with 81 seats, later numbered SP #1052 in 1924. Rebuilt to the Santa Barbara in 1929

The SP142 is now owned by the City of Santa Barbara Redevelopment Agency, has been refurbished by Fillmore & Western Railway Company and is now on static display at the railroad depot downtown (209 State Street, Santa Barbara, CA).

#143 Sierra Nevada

Pullman built class 70-C in 1914 for EP&SW as #676 with 81 seats, later numbered SP #1053 in 1924. Rebuilt to the Sierra Nevada in 1929

see Jim Lancaster's webpage for photos and info

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#144 Diesel Instruction Car -- built in 1911 on 6 wheel trucks, 81' 10" coupled length. Original number unknown. Conversion date unknown, but was listed as at 1950.

A photocopy of a Detailed Floor Plan dated 1952 is available for purchase

#145 Instruction Car -- no further info except was air-conditioned, 6 wheel trucks, 80ft

#146

Instruction Car -- Safety. no further info except; 4 wheel trucks, 60ft.

Also known as an Assembly Car, Harriman 60-C-3 or -4 painted in red/orange Daylight paint scheme but with silver roof - Ken Harrison

#147 Safety Instruction Car -- Converted from Gas Lighted N.A.C. Steel Coach SP 1982
67' 8¾" coupled length on 4 wheel trucks. Conversion date unknown, but was listed as at 1950.

A photocopy of a Detailed Floor Plan dated 1952 is available for purchase

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#150 Sunset Floorplan and elevation of this car as well as 20 pages of photos can be found in the book : "The Official Pullman-Standard Library Volume 6 Postwar Cars". Ordered for D.J Russell in 6/1854 and delivered in 11/1955. P-S was instructed to build an Office Car of "ultimate distinction".

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

offsite link for another image
#204 no information available at this time...

#205 1946 built Pullman-standard Golden State lounge car 2984 named Golden View, transferred and converted to Conference Car numbered 205, by 1972 had been renumbered 215 and renamed Instruction Car.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#206 Built for City of San Francisco same as #215 above numbered 2986, to business car service in 1971 as number 206 no name assigned. Renumbered 215 and renamed Instruction Car by 1975.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#215 Instruction Car 1946 built Pullman-standard Golden State lounge car 2984 named Golden View, transferred and converted to Conference Car numbered 205, by 1972 had been renumbered 215 and renamed Instruction Car.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#216 Instruction Car Built for City of San Francisco same as #215 above numbered 2986, to business car service in 1971 as number 206 no name assigned. Renumbered 215 and renamed Instruction Car by 1975.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#217 Instruction Car Built for the Shasta Daylight by Pullman-Standard in 1954 as (2nd) #2360 with 48 seats. Converted to 40 leg rest seats in 1965. To company service in 1975.
#219 Instruction Car Built for the Shasta Daylight by Pullman-Standard in 1949 as #2396 with 48 seats. To company service as #222 in 1971. Renumbered to #219 in 1976.
#221 Instruction Car

Pullman Standard 1949 build 44 seat coach #2399 named Golden Nugget to company service as #221 in 1973.

Modeling Notes: Union Station makes Laser-cut styrene sides to fit a P-S Car core kit requires other parts and trucks/couplers to complete.

#222 Built for the Shasta Daylight by Pullman-Standard in 1949 as #2396 with 48 seats. To company service as #222 in 1971. Renumbered to #219 in 1976.
#223

Pullman Standard 1949 build 44 seat coach (2nd)#2400 named Golden Bar, to TNO as #452 in 6/39 to company service as #223 in 1973.

Modeling Notes: Union Station makes Laser-cut styrene sides to fit a P-S Car core kit requires other parts and trucks/couplers to complete.

250 from the espee mailing list files - photographer unknown photo 2 - (c) Brian Paul Ehni #250 Police Passenger Car SP 3104, a Budd-built baggage-crew dormitory car for the Sunset Limited. The car was involved in a derailment on the Cascade in Jan, 1971 and was withdrawn from service and never sold to Amtrak. The SP first used it briefly as a test car SP 250 in the mid seventies until they acquired the California Zephyr sleeper and called it SP 251. In the 1980s, the SP installed bay windows of sort and spot lights on the side for special agents to watch carloads of autos ahead.
see: Southern Pacific #250 Police Passenger Car Info page

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

Modeling Notes: Union Station makes Laser-cut styrene sides to fit a Budd Car core kit requires other parts and trucks/couplers to complete.

#251 Instrument Car
NumberSP 9007

When Amtrak took over the remainder of SP passenger service in 1971, SP retained several Budd-built "Sunset" cars for entertainment of shippers and other special uses. Lot 9660-040 10 Roomette, 6 Double Bedroom sleepers SP 9007 (became Instrument Car SP 251 in 1977). Built as 10 Roomette, 6 Double-bedroom (10-6) Sleepers (Pullman plan 9522, diagram 214) -- Bob Pecotich

BuilderBudd 4/7/50
Lot9660-040
Trucks4-TD-1
Berths22
AC.E.M.Amp
Exterior Colornss1, nss2
Dispositionto SP 251, _ /77
#252 Research and Test Car

ex Western Pacific #862 California Zephyr Silver Canyon purchased from a Tour operator in 1978. Converted to an Instrument Car (basically to replace Dynamometer Car 137). Originally a Budd Sleeper built 1948.


In 1998 UP put this car up for sale, minimum bid was $45,000. Here is the text from the sales pitch.

Built in 1949, SP No. 252 was originally part of the California Zephyr. Formerly named the "Silver Canyon", WP No. 862, it was converted in 1978 from an 8/10 sleeper, and is presently used as an instrument car, with sleeping space for eight. The car is fully heated and air conditioned, and has a full stainless steel commercial-grade galley, including refrigerator/freezer, range, oven, microwave, trash compactor, garbage disposal, double sink and pantry. There is also a dining area which comfortably seats eight. Twenty-six feet on one end of the car houses the instrumentation/work section (isolated from the living and eating areas), with a Honeywell HTMS 3000 Data Acquisition System, analog recorders, transducers, and numerous commercial grade video components, as well as various other test equipment. The exterior is fluted stainless steel.

The car is mechanically sound, and would be good for special or freight service, but is currently not HEPed or Amtrak compatible. Power is provided by two 371 Detroit Diesel alternator sets, each capable of providing 30 KVA. The power buss systems are arranged so power to the car and instrument systems is separate, and either buss may be operated from either of the alternator sets.

Car Number: SP 252 Car Name: Instrument Date Built: 1949 Builder: Budd
Engine(s) Type(s): Two 371 Detroit DieselsFuel Type: Diesel #1, or #2 w/ additiveFuel Capacity: 250 Gallons Water Capacity: 300 Gallons
Wheel Bearing Type: Timken Roller Bearing Diaphragm Type: None HEP Compatibility:None Voltage: 220V/AC, 32V/DC Battery Capacity
Coupler Type(s): Tight-lock H Passenger Capacity:8, Sleeping: 8 Platform: None Vestibules: One at Kitchen End
Microphor: All (2 Toilets) Showers: One (1) Hand Brakes: One at Vestibule EndTrainline Compatibility:None
Heating System Type:Electric Hot Water Supply: Electric Brake Type: Budd 26C Disc
Length: 85 Feet Width: 10 Feet, 5 Ins Height: 14 Feet, 2 Inches
#289 City of Angels
(Daylight)

1949 Pullman built class 83-L-1 was at one time numbered 206 and 216 see above. Rebuilt by SP employees for the 1984 Olympic Games and renumbered 289 as well as named City Of Angels. Later repainted in Daylight colors and lost its name. Donated by UP for display at Omaha Union Station.

The 289 was just another lounge car to entertain customers, like the 291 ( the Sunset lounge). They would be added to business car trains if sales wants to meet a large group of customers or operating officers want to meet shippers along the way. Basically you have drinks in the 289 or 291 and then go into the 290 which was the Sunset diner for a nice meal and then go back for more drinks and talk afterwards in the lounges, perhaps see a video or hear the sales/ marketing people pitch whatever latest service they're offering. They are not business cars in the sense what the Stanford or Sunset are, just support cars to entertain with. -- Wesley Fox

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

#290 (Daylight) When Amtrak took over the remainder of SP passenger service in 1971, SP retained several Budd-built "Sunset" cars for entertainment of shippers and other special uses. Class 83-D-3 Audubon diner SP 10214 from Lot 9624-040 (became SP 290 in 1974), in this photo it is a Company service car, (never sold or in Amtrak service), painted in Daylight paint in 1989, built by Budd in 1950 for service on the Sunset Limited. -- Became part of the California State Railroad Museum collection in May 1998. -- Bob Pecotich

To California State RR Museum in 1998

Modeling Notes: Union Station makes Laser-cut styrene sides to fit a Budd Car core kit requires other parts and trucks/couplers to complete.

#291 (Daylight) When Amtrak took over the remainder of SP passenger service in 1971, SP retained several Budd-built "Sunset" cars for entertainment of shippers and other special uses. Class 83-L-2 French Quarter lounge car SP 2987 from Lot 9629-040 (became SP 291 in 1974). -- Became part of the California State Railroad Museum collection in May 1998. -- Bob Pecotich

The 291 was just another lounge car to entertain customers, like the 289 ( the Sunset lounge). They would be added to business car trains if sales wants to meet a large group of customers or operating officers want to meet shippers along the way. Basically you have drinks in the 289 or 291 and then go into the 290 which was the Sunset diner for a nice meal and then go back for more drinks and talk afterwards in the lounges, perhaps see a video or hear the sales/ marketing people pitch whatever latest service they're offering. They are not business cars in the sense what the Stanford or Sunset are, just support cars to entertain with. -- Wesley Fox

To California State RR Museum in 1998

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

Modeling Notes: Union Station makes Laser-cut styrene sides to fit a Budd Car core kit requires other parts and trucks/couplers to complete.

#292 (Daylight)
NumberSP 9009

When Amtrak took over the remainder of SP passenger service in 1971, SP retained several Budd-built "Sunset" cars for entertainment of shippers and other special uses. Lot 9660-040 10 Roomette, 6 Double Bedroom sleepers SP 9009 (became SP 292 in 1975). Built as 10 Roomette, 6 Double-bedroom (10-6) Sleepers (Pullman plan 9522, diagram 214) -- Bob Pecotich

Modeling Notes: Union Station makes Laser-cut styrene sides to fit a Budd Car core kit requires other parts and trucks/couplers to complete.

To California State RR Museum in 1998

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.

BuilderBudd 4/13/50
Lot9660-040
Trucks4-TD-1
Berths22
AC.E.M.Amp
Exterior Colornss1, nss2, painted in Daylight scheme in April 1989 for business service
Dispositionto SP 292, _ /72

In 1998 UP put this car up for sale, minimum bid was $22,000. Here is the text from the sales pitch.

A classic 1950s 10/6 sleeper from the "Sunset Limited", this car has been used as a dormitory for lounge and dining car crews. The car needs painting, carpeting, upholstery and extensive interior work to be usable.

The car is fully dependent upon an external power source for the 220-volt electrical supply and for steam heating of space and hot water. It is not HEPed or Amtrak compatible. It needs truck and plumbing work and to have the heat and hot water systems rebuilt/replaced with electrical systems. It also needs shower addition(s) and a waste disposal system upgrade.

Car Number:SP 292--AMTK 800470Car Name:Sunset Limited SleepingDate Built:3/50Builder:Budd
Wheel Bearing Type:6 x 11, EE Roller BearingEngine(s) Type(s):NoneFuel Type:NoneFuel Capacity:None
Water Capacity: 300 GallonsDiaphragm Type:Streamline--Not AMT CompatibleHEP Compatibility:SP 295 Power CarVoltage:110V/AC, 110V/DC
Coupler Type(s):Tight-lock H, Both EndsPassenger Capacity:22, Sleeping: 22Platform:NoneVestibules:One--Roomette End
Microphor:NoneShowers:NoneHand Brakes:Both EndsTrainline Compatibility:SP 295 Power Car
Heating System Type:SteamHot Water Supply:SteamBrake Type:Disc D22 Valves
Length:85 FeetWidth:10 Feet, 5 InchesHeight:14 Feet, 2 Inches
#293 (Daylight)painted in Daylight scheme, is a Shasta (tall window) type chair car (Pullman built). It was painted Daylight circa 1989 -- Jeff Cauthen

Ryan and Shine in Day Trains of the Coast Line say that is was #2356 a 1954 build 48 seat chair car built for the Coast Daylight, converted to 40 leg rest seats in 1965 and to company service as #293 in 1974 - not as a Shasta tall window type ?


In 1998 UP put this car up for sale, minimum bid was $17,000. Here is the text from the sales pitch.

A classic streamline 1950s long-distance coach with large windows, this car is nearly original, but was not used a great deal by the Southern Pacific, due to deferred maintenance and dated electrical systems. Painted in SP Daylight colors, the interior is moderne, with both the flooring and upholstery in good, traditional condition. The restrooms are large and comfortable. The seats have excellent leg room and there is superb luggage storage. The exterior is also painted with the Daylight color scheme.

This car is Spicer powered. Its heat and hot water systems are steam generated, provided by a power car. It needs truck, electrical and plumbing upgrades and repairs. This car is dependent upon an external source for steam. Unlike much of the SP Fleet, it is not 220-volt HEPed to use a power car for its needs. Heat and hot water systems need to be rebuilt/replaced with electrical systems. The roof leaks, and some body work is required. Not HEPed or AMTRAK compatible, the car was used only in special service.

Car Number:SP 293--AMTK 800493Car Name:ChairDate Built:10/54Builder:Pullman Standard
Wheel Bearing Type:6 x 11 Hyatt BX Roller BearingEngine(s) Type(s):Spicer DriveFuel Type:NoneFuel Capacity:None
Water Capacity: 300 GallonsDiaphragm Type:Std. Streamline Both Ends--Not AMT CompatibleHEP Compatibility:NoneVoltage:110V/AC, 110V/DC
Coupler Type(s):Tight-lock, HTPassenger Capacity:40, Sleeping: NonePlatform:NoneVestibules:One End
Microphor:None (4 Toilets)Showers:NoneHand Brakes:One, Vestibule EndTrainline Compatibility:None
Heating System Type:SteamHot Water Supply:SteamBrake Type:Disc D22 Valves
Length:85 FeetWidth:10 Feet, 5 InchesHeight:14 Feet, 2 Inches
#294

It was (is) a 66-B-2 #6708, an economy baggage built in 1962, ex 6708, renumbered 7/73. -- Jeff Cauthen and Joe Strapac

#295 (Daylight)

ex #6733 66-B-2 Economy Baggage first painted in the Simulated Stainless Steel then painted in Daylight scheme in 1989.

Photo(s) appears in James Kinkaid's SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3.


In 1998 UP put this car up for sale, minimum bid was $14,000. Here is the text from the sales pitch.

The 295 is the sister car to the 298 baggage car. It was at one time set up as the fleet power car. The engine/generator, steam boiler, and water and fuel tanks have been removed, but some of the mountings remain, so it could be refitted as a power car. The exterior is done in the SP Daylight colors.

The car was used only in special train service, in consist with the diner, lounges, sleeper, etc., for which it provided steam heat. The 295 is not Amtrak compatible. It is equipped with a 220-volt train line and needs some truck work.

Car Number:SP 295--AMTK 800469Car Name:BaggageDate Built:1962Builder:Pullman Standard
Wheel Bearing Type:5-1/2 x 10 Roller Bearing--TimkenDiaphragm Type:Express Baggage--AMT Compatible (Both Ends)HEP Compatibility:220V with 110V Trainline Loop-circuitVoltage:220V III Phase
Coupler Type(s):Tight-lock, HT Both EndsPassenger Capacity:None, Sleeping: NonePlatform:NoneVestibules:Blind
Microphor:No ToiletsShowers:NoneHand Brakes:"B" EndTrainline Compatibility:220V III Phase
Heating System Type:SteamHot Water Supply:NoneBrake Type:ABDW Valves Freight
Length:74 FeetWidth:10 Feet, 5 InchesHeight:15 Feet
#296

ex #6706 66-B-2 Economy Baggage

Now owned by Standard Rail Services although a part of the Business Car Fleet it was never painted in the Daylight scheme.

#297

ex #6715 66-B-2 Economy Baggage painted in Daylight scheme in 1989.

#298 (Daylight) ex #6743 66-B-2 Economy Baggage painted in Daylight scheme in 1989.

In 1998 UP put this car up for sale, minimum bid was $14,000. Here is the text from the sales pitch.

Built in 1962, this Pullman Standard baggage car is equipped with storage cabinets, dry ice storage freezers, a chest refrigerator and a bottled gas storage rack. The body and frame are in good shape and the exterior is painted SP Daylight colors.

The car was used in consist with the diner, lounges, sleeper, etc., and only in special train service. The car provided storage for parts tools and fuel, as well as refrigeration of dining car items. The 298 is not Amtrak compatible. It is equipped with a 220-volt train line and needs some truck work.

Car Number:SP 298--AMTK 800468Car Name:BaggageDate Built:1962Builder:Pullman Standard
Wheel Bearing Type:5-1/2 x 10 Roller Bearing--TimkenHEP Compatibility:SP 295 Power CarVoltage:110V/AC, 110V/DCCoupler Type(s):Tight-lock, H ("A" and "B" Ends)
Passenger Capacity:None, Sleeping: NonePlatform:NoneVestibules:BlindMicrophor:No Toilets
Showers:NoneHand Brakes:"B" EndTrainline Compatibility:220VHeating System Type:Steam
Hot Water Supply:NoneBrake Type:Compression Shoes
ABC I Freight
Length:74 FeetWidth:10 Feet, 5 InchesHeight:14 Feet
#299

ex #6752 66-B-2 Economy Baggage.

exCZ (CB&Q) Silver Lariat is not owned by SP. It is privately owned by California Zephyr Railcar Charters (Costa Mesa, CA) and was leased to SP for some time.

References/Sources:

  • Joe Mann
  • Anthony Pinkerton
  • Bob Pecotich
  • George G. Nelson, Jr.
  • K Hensley
  • John H. Deasy
  • Bryan Sanderford
  • Ken Harrison
  • Jeff Cauthen
  • Bill Kelly
  • Ray Eiser
  • SP Passenger Trains Vol.2 Day Trains of the Coast Line - Ryan and Shine
  • Southern Pacific Review 1978-79
  • Trainline issue No.20
  • SP Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment Volume 3 - James Kinkaid.


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